i noticed in one of ur vids that u used a bobber i would suggest trying to dead stick for them but ur basicly doing that with a bobber, i noticed this year at long island fishing for gills they would only hit when i held it perfectly still, i also had a bobber in the next hole and only caught 2 on it all day but i put a minnow six inches above a jig and waxy, so the minnow would move the jig for me, i think the movement was the problem.
