Hit long before daybreak. Got two big perch and a nice crappie right off the bat and then it was gill fest again. Few keepers but a lot of sorting through smalls. Stuck it out all day and right at sunset the crappie fired up. Managed about a dozen keepers before they shut down at dark. So didn't kill em but at least I caught SOMETHING besides gills. Still about 5 inches at long island but it's softeningup and there is open water nearby. The shoreline had some open spots. I'm calling it until we get some cold weather. If you go out BE CAREFUL. Heard two guys went through at Achesons.