like an amateur I left my rod on the ice while I went out to pick up more bait as one would expect I came back and the rod was gone! normally it's not a huge deal but all together the combo was 300 dollars and it was my buddies! man did I feel like a dumby. luckily Doug was there and graciously helped without hesitation. without his under water camera and help drilling holes I would have never found it! I snagged it with a vibe and pulled it out of the muck and silt and on the other end a catfish man oh man did I want to punt it ha but I let him swim away. I thought the story was funny and lucky my friend on the other hand... not so much. I want to stress the fact that I would use never retrieved it had it not been for Doug! thanks again