Yeah same here. I was on ledge in Hinkley yesterday ice was good. 5". If not for ALL this rain and snow melt, I think it would have survived the weekend. Then went to Wallace in Berea, ice was much worse and going fasr. I was happy when i got off. Caught a few trout at each lake. Lost a bruser 20" at the hole. Powerbait near bottom. Got the shanty set up in the garage drying out. Hope i get everything dry before it gets all cold again.