I broke out the Vexilar Fish Scout I stole off Dave yesterday. I didn't use it for fishing, just to see how deep the light was penetrating in Alum's chocolate milk. Seemed 12' was about as deep as light was getting. Cut about 40 holes in 3'-27' spread the tip-ups and did some hole hoppin'. Pulled 9-eyes, 2-perch, 1-cat and a gill. Unfortunately 7 were short by less than a inch and one little cigar. Blue Ice Pimple with a minnow head in 12-14' was the ticket for eye's,cat came out of 27'. Marmooska pulled the perch in 18'. Thanks for the scout Dave. It earned it's two minutes of use today.