i was by moggy today , went by the new launch ramp checking ice . the edges were getting soft and it snappled when i jumped on it, there was one red shanty out there but i dont know ice thickness , didnt have my spikes or drill any holes. lansinger rd is gated off now . i put my gear up or i might be tempted to give it a look at moggy . the ice is going to get wishy washy soon, besides i have a gas drill and i dodnt want the fun police after me hahahaahahahahahahahah