Thanx Dave that's what I did nice catch man i only got one keeper minnow on tip up took a s oftwater angler for his first outing he lost one at the hole glo.jig tipped with a minnow head I also lost a decent one at the hole on a northland buckshot rattle flyer spoon gold n orange didn't get there till nearly four granny 75th bday my fish all came in 9-11 ft range hugging the bottom near 11 ft.