I went out today with Bruce136 and was joined later by Suttalo and Kingbluebacon, The ice started out at 6" out on the lake with the edges still fair at 8:00 am, when we left at 3:30 pm it was 4.75" out on the lake. I will not try going out on the west side any more this year! We caught 80 or so crappies between us and some WB and some cats.