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Ice Fishing => General Discussion => Topic started by: buster on November 06, 2014, 02:20:01 PM

Title: need help with ice shelter
Post by: buster on November 06, 2014, 02:20:01 PM
Thinking about getting an ice shelter this year would like to get something with lots of space (my ice rods aren't normal short rods, rather they are 4'6" UL rods hence the need for space), anyone have any suggestions

Tight lines,
Ty
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: slabslayer on November 06, 2014, 03:51:41 PM
Long rodding is starting to take off around here. The thought is by staying back from the hole you won't spook the fish as easily.  I would think a hub style pack shelter would be the best fit for that technique. They fold up very small and would fit into a small sled. A traditional flip over shanty I don't think would have the room for rods that long.
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: Banker on November 06, 2014, 06:39:28 PM
I have fished a 4 ft rod in my 3-4 man hub style shanty with just enough room length wise for it to be comfortable
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: snowcone on November 06, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
I agree a pop up shanty offers more room , less weight, the storage case on my pop up has shoulder straps like a back pack. sometimes I take it when im shore fishing to stay dry and cozy  hahah   ;D
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: buster on November 07, 2014, 12:31:19 PM
Any brands or models that really stand out? Is there a need for insulated vs non-insulated here in Ohio

Tight lines,
Ty
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: slabslayer on November 07, 2014, 01:09:50 PM
I like clam, but I don't think insulated is necessary here in Ohio. That said, I just bought a new insulated shanty. I like the insulated because there's no condensation on the fabric when you're inside fishing.
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: buster on November 07, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
Which one did you get slab
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: Banker on November 07, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
insulated not needed and adds weight. Try to go as light as you can so you can pack up and move when the fish move and feel like your tied to one spot on the ice due to too much work required to move.
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: slabslayer on November 07, 2014, 04:23:51 PM
Mines not a hub style. I got a one man flip over since I normally fish alone. I wanted to reduce weight so I went from a 2 man to a 1 man.  The insulated adds a little more weight but is still less weight than my old 2 man and doesn't retain the moisture so your shanty is less likely to mildew.  The shanty I got wouldn't work very well for your long rodding technique. Check out clam.com.  They'll have a nice selection of hubs you can look at. Frabill and Eskimo also have them in their lineups as well.  This year I even saw one that looked pretty nice for under $100 that would work well for you at either Gander Mountain or Dick's, I can't remember which store it was but I think it was Gander. I'll be back there soon and can keep you posted.  Like Banker said, mobility is key that's why I went to a one man flip over, I like the flip over because it's a sled. Just flip the top back down and you can move to a new spot in seconds, no shanty to take down.
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: slabslayer on November 08, 2014, 11:44:42 AM
They are at Gander but I was wrong about the price. They're $180 non insulated and $280 for insulated. They're a 6'x6' shelter. They had one set up and I looked it over and it seems pretty nice. Not sure what you can get in that price range for a clam.
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: Ntoiceman36 on November 08, 2014, 07:10:16 PM
I agree you want to stay light and as mobile as possible! A cumbersome shelter load only holds you back when it comes to getting in fish, also if it is alot of work to put up or tear down you may find yourself questioning if you want to move or not because of the hassels involved in moving your setup!
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: icebucketjohn on November 10, 2014, 01:10:27 PM
I totally agree with all the above comments, suggestions & insights.  Eventho I have a Clam  Nanook, 2-person/flip-over.  Satisfied with it,  but I feel the Eskimo & Otter Brands are better built.

Flip-Ups are for mobility and Pop-Up for the more 'stationary-type" ice fisherman.

For your needs, go with Pop-Up vs a Flip-Over.



Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: buster on November 11, 2014, 01:12:53 AM
I am willing to get a few ice rods(28" or 30") if you all feel that going with a flip over is a better way to go, any and all suggestions on rods and flip over would be greatly appreciated

Tight lines,
Ty
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: Banker on November 11, 2014, 05:38:09 AM
I personally like shorter rods In a flip 24 being the longest I would go St Croix and Sportsmens Direct make  17-18 inch rod that works perfect for one man flip shelters
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: slabslayer on November 11, 2014, 05:58:04 AM
I like the flip because of portability. Also their bases are sleds so your gear can fit right inside one. With the new style flips, you can setup and be on the move again in about 30 seconds and flip ups are less prone to wind problems. The wind can wreck havoc on a pop up sometimes, and anchoring it takes time.

For the rods I'm partial to Jason Mitchell.  My rods vary in length from 17"-28", I like different lengths for different actions and presentations. I think they (Mitchell's) give the most bang for your buck. But as Banker said St. Croix is good also, just a tad more expensive. Either way you can't go wrong!
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: Ntoiceman36 on November 11, 2014, 07:03:11 AM
Well said slab,but on the other hand MONEY is no object with a name like banker! :P
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: Saw guy on November 11, 2014, 11:25:13 AM
Good choice going with the shorter rods. Most shantys/flip overs are not designed to fish longer rods. I have a 2 man clam Yukon flip over. It weighs 95 lbs without any gear. It functions well when set up. Only complaint is that the door is on the front. I would prefer the side. Tough to pull if there's snow or drifts on the ice. My next flip over will likely be an otter.
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: My Demeyes on November 11, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
I made mine to be roomy and mobile, can use 4' rods and be ready to move in just a couple minutes
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: snowcone on November 11, 2014, 10:47:14 PM
wind is bad  :P     chased my pop up across  mogadore  once. now I use a clip rope so not to have repeat....
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: Banker on November 12, 2014, 07:35:19 PM
I got blown from safe ice to unsafe ice in my Clam 2000 on Indian one year 50 yard ride scared the crap out of me
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: snowcone on November 12, 2014, 09:17:14 PM
oh crap  :P
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: slabslayer on November 12, 2014, 10:11:22 PM
That had to be a pucker factor of art least 9.7! :o
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: toadfish on November 15, 2014, 07:00:11 AM
Ty,
flip-over with 28" or under rods is the way to go for mobility.  I have a Shappell rover 1.0 that fits in the back of my hatchback.  All gear goes into the shanty, gets pulled to the spot and I use my vexilar FL-20 to try to locate fish/drop-offs.  Moving is is easy as pulling up my lines and moving to the next hole.  Spooking fish is usually not a problem in the waters I fish in winter since they are stained or deep.

Moving in  a hub will require all gear be put away, the hub taken down and all gear unpacked again.  Only under near windless conditions will you be able to move without tearing down.

I carry tackle, electronics, food, rods, scoop and bait.  I use a lantern for light/heat and will carry extra fuel if I plan to be out all day.

Good luck on your decision and on the hard water.
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: bassmastermjb on November 15, 2014, 10:29:55 AM
I have brand new Quick Fish 3 hubs on sale for $149..........Mark
Title: Re: need help with ice shelter
Post by: steelneyes on November 21, 2014, 12:06:18 PM
I think it really matters what you target.  Panfish tend to be run and gun and sometimes run and run and run.  Working from hole to hole along a flat or break, stumps, weeds etc. seems to be key to a productive day.  Flip over is the best for that. 
I don't do much walleye fishing through the ice, but they tend to roam and can be called in using blade baits etc. Big water where you are allowed to use machines and are fishing a general area, not a spot on a spot would favor a hub style, plenty of room to set up for the day and spread out your gear. 
Frankly, the wind sucks whatever you are fishing in, my 2 man flip over will take off with the best of them if there i no snow and I don't anchor it.
Go somewhere you can check out a few models, and set up and take down the display model.  Then imagine anything that will go wrong or be a pain and multiply it by the cold, wind and bulky clothes factor.  Last but not least, figure out how much weight total, if you are pulling by hand.  Figure on gear, shelter, food, even a minnow bucket if you use one, and any fish you may keep for the day.  About 100 lbs seems to be the point which is tough to pull by hand. 
I went with an Eskimo flip over from Mark last year and we decided to pull the bench seat in favor of a chair since I fish alone most of the time.  Dropped over 30 lbs which made a huge difference pulling, loading and unloading.