Ive been up n out 4 times. Have yet to see anyone doing this. Be careful, we put half the quad threw twice on sunday 100 yrd off the beech just east off the x mas tree trail. We could have driven the truck out there 3 days prior. Wind last weekend opened up a few cracks n that cold and snow hid them. We smoked the fish with 2 over 10 lbs and 2 over 11 on thursday 2.2 miles west northwest outta catawaba.