Sorry yeah the info is probably a good idea lol! We were in 28 fow using #5 sweetish pimples with a 3" red stinger and every hook was tipped with minnows. Green/gold and green/silver being the ticket. We didn't get fishing until 10:30 am cause we were trying to catch crappie in lorain with no luck and made the decision to try walleye up there until 8:30. We didn't hook our first fish until 12 lost it at the hole then landed one 15 minutes later. It got quiet till 2:00 and was nonstop till dark , lost as many as we landed and had a blast! Not bad for our first time walleye fishing though the ice! Ice was 14-16 inches where we were.